nursing home in Flint, MI
Kith Haven
G 1069 Ballenger Highway, Flint, MI 48504 · (810) 235-6676
★★★★★1
Much below average
CMS overall star rating
CMS overall star rating
- Health inspections★★★★★2
- Staffing★★★★★4
- Quality measures★★★★★1
- Abuse citation
Source: Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), Medicare Care Compare. We refresh our information from this source. About our data
Kith Haven at a glance
Kith Haven is a 159-bed for-profit nursing home in Flint, Michigan (Genesee County).
CMS gives it 1 out of 5 stars on its overall star rating, worse than the Michigan average of 3.1.
Residents receive about 3.9 hours of nursing care per day (0.4 of them from registered nurses), close to the state average of 4 hours.
Its most recent standard health inspection (March 23, 2026) found 12 health citations. The Michigan average is 9.9.
Federal regulators fined it 1 time in the past three years, totaling $119,506.
Nursing staff turnover is 33.3% per year (state average 44.1%).
Facility details
- Type
- Nursing home
- Ownership
- For Profit - Corporation
- Beds
- 159
- Certified for
- Medicare and Medicaid
- Chain / affiliated entity
- Ciena Healthcare/Laurel Health Care
- Medicare-certified since
- October 1, 1977
- Resident/family council
- Resident
- County
- Genesee County
- CMS Certification Number
- 235343
Ratings
| Measure | This facility | Michigan avg. | U.S. avg. | vs. U.S. |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Overall star rating ⓘ (higher is better) | 1 / 5 | 3.1 / 5 | 3 / 5 | Worse |
| Health inspection rating ⓘ (higher is better) | 2 / 5 | 2.8 / 5 | 2.8 / 5 | Worse |
| Staffing rating ⓘ (higher is better) | 4 / 5 | 3.6 / 5 | 2.9 / 5 | Better |
| Quality measures rating ⓘ (higher is better) | 1 / 5 | 3.9 / 5 | 3.6 / 5 | Worse |
| Long-stay quality rating (higher is better) | 2 / 5 | 4 / 5 | 3.8 / 5 | Worse |
| Short-stay (rehab) quality rating (higher is better) | 1 / 5 | 3.5 / 5 | 3.3 / 5 | Worse |
Staffing
| Measure | This facility | Michigan avg. | U.S. avg. | vs. U.S. |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Total nurse staff hours per resident per day ⓘ (higher is better) | 3.93 hrs | 3.99 hrs | 3.86 hrs | Average |
| Registered nurse hours per resident per day (higher is better) | 0.39 hrs | 0.78 hrs | 0.69 hrs | Worse |
| Nurse aide hours per resident per day (higher is better) | 2.64 hrs | 2.33 hrs | 2.32 hrs | Better |
| Weekend nurse staff hours per resident per day (higher is better) | 3.57 hrs | 3.50 hrs | 3.42 hrs | Average |
| Nursing staff turnover (yearly) (lower is better) | 33.3% | 44.1% | 45.8% | Better |
| Registered nurse turnover (yearly) (lower is better) | 50% | 39.2% | 42.9% | Worse |
| Administrators who left in the past year (lower is better) | 0 | 0 | 1 | Better |
Inspections
| Measure | This facility | Michigan avg. | U.S. avg. | vs. U.S. |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Health citations in the most recent inspection (lower is better) | 12 | 10 | 9 | Worse |
| Citations from complaint investigations (latest cycle) (lower is better) | 3 | 3 | 3 | Worse |
| Weighted health inspection score ⓘ (lower is better) | 123 | 89.4 | 80.6 | Worse |
Penalties
| Measure | This facility | Michigan avg. | U.S. avg. | vs. U.S. |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fines in the past 3 years (lower is better) | 1 | 1 | 1 | Worse |
| Total fines in the past 3 years (lower is better) | $119,506 | $29,376 | $30,972 | Worse |
| All federal penalties in the past 3 years (lower is better) | 2 | 1 | 1 | Worse |
Size
| Measure | This facility | Michigan avg. | U.S. avg. | vs. U.S. |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Certified beds | 159 | 104 | 107 | |
| Average residents per day | 128 | 86 | 86 | |
| Occupancy | 80.2% | 83.4% | 80.9% |
Long-stay residents
| Measure | This facility | Michigan avg. | U.S. avg. | vs. U.S. |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Long-stay residents with a fall causing major injury (lower is better) | 2.7% | 3% | 3.2% | Better |
| Long-stay residents with pressure ulcers (lower is better) | 8.1% | 5.1% | 4.6% | Worse |
| Long-stay residents given antipsychotic medication (lower is better) | 25.4% | 14.8% | 15.4% | Worse |
| Long-stay residents with a urinary tract infection (lower is better) | 0.4% | 1.5% | 1.6% | Better |
| Long-stay residents with a catheter left in the bladder (lower is better) | 0.7% | 0.8% | 0.8% | Better |
| Long-stay residents needing more help with daily activities (lower is better) | 11.8% | 10.8% | 13.9% | Better |
| Long-stay residents whose walking worsened (lower is better) | 15.8% | 12% | 14.1% | Worse |
| Long-stay residents who lose too much weight (lower is better) | 7.4% | 5.4% | 5.2% | Worse |
| Long-stay residents with depressive symptoms (lower is better) | 0.7% | 4.3% | 12.8% | Better |
| Long-stay residents who were physically restrained (lower is better) | 0% | 0.1% | 0.1% | Better |
| Long-stay residents given anti-anxiety or sleep medication (lower is better) | 23.6% | 19.4% | 19.5% | Worse |
| Long-stay residents with new or worse incontinence (lower is better) | 28.5% | 20% | 19% | Worse |
| Long-stay residents given a flu vaccine (higher is better) | 95.4% | 95% | 95.5% | Average |
| Long-stay residents given a pneumonia vaccine (higher is better) | 95% | 95.3% | 93.6% | Average |
Short-stay residents
| Measure | This facility | Michigan avg. | U.S. avg. | vs. U.S. |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Short-stay residents newly given antipsychotic medication (lower is better) | 2% | 1.1% | 1.6% | Worse |
| Short-stay residents given a flu vaccine (higher is better) | 53.3% | 79.5% | 79.8% | Worse |
| Short-stay residents given a pneumonia vaccine (higher is better) | 46.6% | 83.3% | 82% | Worse |
Inspection citations
State inspectors cited this home for 49 health deficiencies and 9 fire safety deficiencies in the inspection records CMS currently publishes. 3 citations involved actual harm.
| Date | Citation | Severity | Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| July 28, 2026 Complaint | Ensure that the facility has sufficient staff members who possess the competencies and skills to meet the behavioral health needs of residents. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0741 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected August 25, 2026 |
| April 29, 2026 Complaint | Protect each resident from all types of abuse such as physical, mental, sexual abuse, physical punishment, and neglect by anybody. Freedom from Abuse, Neglect, and Exploitation Deficiencies · Tag F0600 | G Actual harm, isolated | Corrected May 21, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Fire safety | Inspect, test, and maintain automatic sprinkler systems. Smoke Deficiencies · Tag K0353 | F Potential harm, widespread | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Fire safety | Ensure that special areas are constructed so that walls can resist fire for one hour or have an approved fire extinguishing system. Smoke Deficiencies · Tag K0321 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Fire safety | Provide properly protected cooking facilities. Smoke Deficiencies · Tag K0324 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Standard | Procure food from sources approved or considered satisfactory and store, prepare, distribute and serve food in accordance with professional standards. Nutrition and Dietary Deficiencies · Tag F0812 | F Potential harm, widespread | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Standard | Develop and implement policies and procedures for flu and pneumonia vaccinations. Infection Control Deficiencies · Tag F0883 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Standard | Ensure that feeding tubes are not used unless there is a medical reason and the resident agrees; and provide appropriate care for a resident with a feeding tube. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0693 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Standard | Provide care and assistance to perform activities of daily living for any resident who is unable. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0677 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Standard | Develop the complete care plan within 7 days of the comprehensive assessment; and prepared, reviewed, and revised by a team of health professionals. Resident Assessment and Care Planning Deficiencies · Tag F0657 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Standard | Provide appropriate treatment and care according to orders, resident’s preferences and goals. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0684 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Standard | Ensure residents do not lose the ability to perform activities of daily living unless there is a medical reason. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0676 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Standard | Assess the resident when there is a significant change in condition Resident Assessment and Care Planning Deficiencies · Tag F0637 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| March 23, 2026 Standard | Prevent the use of unnecessary psychotropic medications or use medications that may restrain a resident's ability to function. Freedom from Abuse, Neglect, and Exploitation Deficiencies · Tag F0605 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected April 28, 2026 |
| January 13, 2026 Complaint | Develop and implement a complete care plan that meets all the resident's needs, with timetables and actions that can be measured. Resident Assessment and Care Planning Deficiencies · Tag F0656 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected February 12, 2026 |
| August 14, 2025 Complaint | Ensure the transfer/discharge meets the resident's needs/preferences and that the resident is prepared for a safe transfer/discharge. Resident Rights Deficiencies · Tag F0627 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected September 12, 2025 |
| June 4, 2025 Complaint | Ensure that a nursing home area is free from accident hazards and provides adequate supervision to prevent accidents. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0689 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected July 8, 2025 |
| March 28, 2025 Complaint | Ensure services provided by the nursing facility meet professional standards of quality. Resident Assessment and Care Planning Deficiencies · Tag F0658 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected April 29, 2025 |
| March 28, 2025 Complaint | Ensure that a nursing home area is free from accident hazards and provides adequate supervision to prevent accidents. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0689 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected April 29, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Fire safety | Have generator or other power source capable of supplying service within 10 seconds. Gas, Vacuum, and Electrical Systems Deficiencies · Tag K0918 | F Potential harm, widespread | Corrected March 7, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Fire safety | Install smoke barrier doors that can resist smoke for at least 20 minutes. Smoke Deficiencies · Tag K0374 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 7, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Standard | Procure food from sources approved or considered satisfactory and store, prepare, distribute and serve food in accordance with professional standards. Nutrition and Dietary Deficiencies · Tag F0812 | F Potential harm, widespread | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Standard | Ensure drugs and biologicals used in the facility are labeled in accordance with currently accepted professional principles; and all drugs and biologicals must be stored in locked compartments, separately locked, compartments for controlled drugs. Pharmacy Service Deficiencies · Tag F0761 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Complaint | Provide and implement an infection prevention and control program. Infection Control Deficiencies · Tag F0880 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Standard | Ensure a licensed pharmacist perform a monthly drug regimen review, including the medical chart, following irregularity reporting guidelines in developed policies and procedures. Pharmacy Service Deficiencies · Tag F0756 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Standard | Provide safe, appropriate dialysis care/services for a resident who requires such services. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0698 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Complaint | Honor the resident's right to a dignified existence, self-determination, communication, and to exercise his or her rights. Resident Rights Deficiencies · Tag F0550 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Standard | Ensure that residents are free from significant medication errors. Pharmacy Service Deficiencies · Tag F0760 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Complaint | Honor the resident's right to a safe, clean, comfortable and homelike environment, including but not limited to receiving treatment and supports for daily living safely. Resident Rights Deficiencies · Tag F0584 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Complaint | Develop the complete care plan within 7 days of the comprehensive assessment; and prepared, reviewed, and revised by a team of health professionals. Resident Assessment and Care Planning Deficiencies · Tag F0657 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Complaint | Provide appropriate treatment and care according to orders, resident’s preferences and goals. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0684 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Complaint | Provide appropriate pressure ulcer care and prevent new ulcers from developing. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0686 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Complaint | Provide appropriate care for a resident to maintain and/or improve range of motion (ROM), limited ROM and/or mobility, unless a decline is for a medical reason. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0688 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Standard | Provide enough food/fluids to maintain a resident's health. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0692 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Standard | Provide safe and appropriate respiratory care for a resident when needed. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0695 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Standard | Ensure each resident must receive and the facility must provide necessary behavioral health care and services. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0740 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Standard | Implement gradual dose reductions(GDR) and non-pharmacological interventions, unless contraindicated, prior to initiating or instead of continuing psychotropic medication; and PRN orders for psychotropic medications are only used when the medication is necessary and PRN use is limited. Pharmacy Service Deficiencies · Tag F0758 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Complaint | Provide or obtain dental services for each resident. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0791 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| January 31, 2025 Standard | Provide special eating equipment and utensils for residents who need them and appropriate assistance. Nutrition and Dietary Deficiencies · Tag F0810 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 27, 2025 |
| February 7, 2024 Fire safety | Have simulated fire drills held at unexpected times. Miscellaneous Deficiencies · Tag K0712 | F Potential harm, widespread | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Fire safety | Inspect, test, and maintain automatic sprinkler systems. Smoke Deficiencies · Tag K0353 | F Potential harm, widespread | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Fire safety | Install corridor and hallway doors that block smoke. Smoke Deficiencies · Tag K0363 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Fire safety | Ensure that special areas are constructed so that walls can resist fire for one hour or have an approved fire extinguishing system. Smoke Deficiencies · Tag K0321 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Provide appropriate pressure ulcer care and prevent new ulcers from developing. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0686 | G Actual harm, isolated | Corrected May 11, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Protect each resident from all types of abuse such as physical, mental, sexual abuse, physical punishment, and neglect by anybody. Freedom from Abuse, Neglect, and Exploitation Deficiencies · Tag F0600 | G Actual harm, isolated | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Standard | Ensure drugs and biologicals used in the facility are labeled in accordance with currently accepted professional principles; and all drugs and biologicals must be stored in locked compartments, separately locked, compartments for controlled drugs. Pharmacy Service Deficiencies · Tag F0761 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Provide care and assistance to perform activities of daily living for any resident who is unable. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0677 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Develop the complete care plan within 7 days of the comprehensive assessment; and prepared, reviewed, and revised by a team of health professionals. Resident Assessment and Care Planning Deficiencies · Tag F0657 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Honor the resident's right to a safe, clean, comfortable and homelike environment, including but not limited to receiving treatment and supports for daily living safely. Resident Rights Deficiencies · Tag F0584 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Reasonably accommodate the needs and preferences of each resident. Resident Rights Deficiencies · Tag F0558 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Standard | Procure food from sources approved or considered satisfactory and store, prepare, distribute and serve food in accordance with professional standards. Nutrition and Dietary Deficiencies · Tag F0812 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Provide and implement an infection prevention and control program. Infection Control Deficiencies · Tag F0880 | E Potential harm, pattern | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Ensure that a nursing home area is free from accident hazards and provides adequate supervision to prevent accidents. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0689 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected May 11, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Provide appropriate treatment and care according to orders, resident’s preferences and goals. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0684 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Honor the resident's right to receive visitors of his or her choosing, at the time of his or her choosing. Resident Rights Deficiencies · Tag F0563 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Standard | Ensure that feeding tubes are not used unless there is a medical reason and the resident agrees; and provide appropriate care for a resident with a feeding tube. Quality of Life and Care Deficiencies · Tag F0693 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Honor the resident's right to a dignified existence, self-determination, communication, and to exercise his or her rights. Resident Rights Deficiencies · Tag F0550 | D Potential harm, isolated | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 Complaint | Post nurse staffing information every day. Nursing and Physician Services Deficiencies · Tag F0732 | C No harm, widespread | Corrected March 14, 2024 |
Severity letters follow the CMS scope-and-severity grid: A–C no actual harm with potential for minimal harm; D–F potential for more than minimal harm; G–I actual harm; J–L immediate jeopardy to resident health or safety. How to read inspection citations.
Fines and payment denials
CMS reports 2 federal penalties in the past three years, including $119,506 in fines.
| Date | Penalty | Amount / length |
|---|---|---|
| February 7, 2024 | Payment Denial | 57 days from March 15, 2024 |
| February 7, 2024 | Fine | $119,506 |
Owners and managers
Individuals and organizations reported to CMS as owning or operating this nursing home.
| Name | Role | Share | Since |
|---|---|---|---|
| CHERRY, MELVIN Individual | adp of the snf | NOT APPLICABLE | 03/31/2025 |
| CIENA HEALTHCARE MANAGEMENT INC Organization | adp of the snf | NOT APPLICABLE | 03/24/2025 |
| FRANKLIN ALEXANDER, DANA Individual | adp of the snf | NOT APPLICABLE | 10/12/2018 |
| KHAN, ANIS Individual | adp of the snf | NOT APPLICABLE | 08/01/2002 |
| MOHAMMAD A QAZI LIVING TRUST DATED 09/26/97 Organization | adp of the snf | NOT APPLICABLE | 08/01/2002 |
| QAZI, MOHAMMAD Individual | adp of the snf | NOT APPLICABLE | 08/01/2002 |
| KHAN, ANIS Individual | managing control - governing body | NOT APPLICABLE | 08/01/2002 |
| QAZI, MOHAMMAD Individual | managing control - governing body | NOT APPLICABLE | 08/01/2002 |
| CHERRY, MELVIN Individual | operational/managerial control | NOT APPLICABLE | 08/01/2002 |
| CIENA HEALTHCARE MANAGEMENT INC Organization | operational/managerial control | NOT APPLICABLE | 03/01/2002 |
| FRANKLIN ALEXANDER, DANA Individual | operational/managerial control | NOT APPLICABLE | 10/12/2018 |
| KHAN, ANIS Individual | operational/managerial control | NOT APPLICABLE | 08/01/2002 |
| QAZI, MOHAMMAD Individual | operational/managerial control | NOT APPLICABLE | 08/01/2002 |
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Frequently asked questions
What is Kith Haven's rating?
Kith Haven has 1 out of 5 stars on the CMS overall star rating. The average for Michigan nursing homes is 3.1 stars.
How many inspection citations did Kith Haven receive?
Its most recent standard health inspection found 12 citations, compared with a Michigan average of 9.9. Every citation is listed on this page with its severity.
Does Kith Haven accept Medicare and Medicaid?
CMS lists it as certified for: Medicare and Medicaid. Call the facility to confirm bed availability and whether it accepts your specific plan.
Who owns Kith Haven?
It is for profit - corporation and part of Ciena Healthcare/Laurel Health Care. The ownership section on this page lists the owners and managers reported to CMS.
Where is Kith Haven and how do I contact it?
Kith Haven is at G 1069 Ballenger Highway, Flint, MI 48504. Phone: (810) 235-6676.
About this data
Ratings and measures come from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), Medicare Care Compare. They're based on state inspections, patient surveys and facility reports, and they describe the past. Facilities change, so visit in person and confirm details directly. About our data · Spotted an error? Let us know.